January 2, 2013
A simple thank you! Just found this site through the back door of Helldorado. Just spent a pleasant evening listening and watching and bringing back the sound that has given me many hours of listening pleasure. Had the opportunity to see, listen to members of the Sons at a small event put on by Sam Boyd years ago in Las Vegas. THANK YOU for all the work, time, effort, love and talent it took, takes to create this wonderful site.
January 10, 2013
got the song "Slumber time on the Range" up on my
YouTube channel, and
someone commented and said that they thought it was filmed when Tim was not with
the Pioneers. Is that true? I mean, Tim isn't in the movie, but I thought his
voice was in the songs. If it's not him, who is singing with Lloyd and Bob? I
need to figure out how to make the volume higher before I post more videos,
because this one is intolerably low!
I’m sorry, I can’t tell you for sure who is in the trio in “Rio Grande”.
It’s true Tim was not back bodily in time for the filming of “Rio Grande” but he was back with the Sons of the Pioneers about that time. No one seems to have the exact date when he returned but we do know that you can’t go by the films.
In several cases I have release dates for the movies but not production dates and vice versa. Each film was whipped off in less than two weeks BUT they weren’t necessarily released immediately after they were filmed. They were released when it was convenient. Titles were switched. Sometimes the photographs with production numbers for one film were actually taken from a scene in another.
We don’t know the first film Tim was back in time to appear in because no one has found a print for the two preceding “Spoilers of the Plains”. However, Tim wasn’t in the production stills for either of them and all the songs in “Rio Grande” and the three films following were written by Bob Nolan.
It is possible that Tim was back in time to do the pre-recording of the songs, but not likely.
The Sons of the Pioneers recorded the songs before the films were produced but each song was not necessarily created for a certain film. In other words, Columbia had a selection of Sons of the Pioneers’ pre-recorded songs “in the pot” to choose from to use whenever they needed a tune. All they had to do was create a scene and get the Pioneers to mime a song.
If Tim wasn’t in the trio in the songs for “Rio Grande”, there are a number of other possibilities:
- Pat Brady was capable of taking his place in the trio at the time, although he didn’t blend as well.
- Karl Farr was quite able to take Tim’s place in the trio, if necessary.
- Wesley Tuttle or Charlie Quirk sometimes stepped in briefly.
- Since all the songs for these films were pre-recorded, and this song takes place on the set, Lloyd could have overdubbed the solo part to the pre-recorded song where he took his place in the trio. He could have been both solo and in the trio.
The short answer is, I don’t know. It’s an interesting question and will take a good ear to answer correctly.
January 25, 2013
Calin – I’ve been trying to recover some of Bob’s immortal music lately on YouTube and I stumbled on your webpage by accident. It is a goldmine of information that I had never read.
Since boyhood I have been a distant admirer of his voice, his words and music, and of course, the Sons of the Pioneers. My interest comes alive living as I do about 45 minutes from Hatfield Point, New Brunswick, Canada, where your grandfather spent a few years of his boyhood. I had realized that, but it came alive to me more in reading the material on the website and the connection with the Noble family name. Whenever I mention my fondness for Bob’s music I usually include his connection with our province. It was a shame that he never apparently returned here for a visit later in his career.
There are just so many gems among his compositions. Favorites of mine would be “Here’s to you” (My best to you) – wonderful; “The King’s Highway”, and maybe “The Everlasting Hills of Oklahoma”. His stirring baritone rumbles throughout all the Pioneers’ renditions and sets the group very much apart, certainly from any current efforts. I am 75 now and my musical interest ended with most groups that terminated in the ‘50s and ‘60’s.
I regret that I never discovered the website until just now, but it is a worthy tribute to your grandfather who made such a name in his day and whose roots can be traced to our corner of the world.
(Rev) Ted Britten
Saint John, NB Canada
I had hoped that, by now, I would have some detailed news for you, but Pete has not yet sent me all of the details that I was hoping to pass on to you. By this time in a typical week I would have sent you the week’s play lists, so I didn’t want to wait longer to let you know, if you haven’t already discovered it, that the BostonPete.com web site has started shutting down. Apparently, listener numbers remain high, but sales of CDs and DVDs advertised on the site are way down, so much so that the income from sales has dropped below the costs of maintaining the site (especially paying for licensing and music royalties), so Pete has had to pull the plug on all of the music shows.
He will keep the site up for a while, running shows like radio westerns, etc. that don’t feature music, in the hope that he can continue to offer some entertainment while attempting to sell off some of the inventory that remains. If you have seen something on the site you like but have postponed buying it, now is the time.
Pete’s major supplier of these items has also gone out-of-business, due to the decline in the market as technology has continued to change in recent years. People are turning to media other than DVDs and CDs, and demand for discs is dropping across the board. Rex Allen Jr. told me last Fall that his most recent CD contains fewer songs than the typical CD of the past because people are downloading their music rather than buying CDs. And earlier in the year, when I went to a music store to buy blank CDs, the young clerk told me that it had been so long since he had worked with CDs, he couldn’t answer my technical questions! So the changing technology and dwindling audience of those who remember the songs from their youth, are combining to make it difficult for BostonPete to continue.
On the brighter side, just as I was getting this news, a small station in California sent me a note to explore the possibility of broadcasting “Western Music Time” locally. More stations have begun to stream their broadcasts, so if this station takes that route, it may be possible for listeners in other areas to tune in to the show once again. I’ll keep you posted.
It’s hard to believe that the show has had a run of almost 12 years. Each one has been fun! I’m very grateful to everyone who has so generously contributed songs and stories. I’m also grateful to all of the listeners, especially those who have stayed with us for the duration, and to the many listeners who have sent messages telling me their stories about the pleasant memories the music has brought back and how much the show has meant to them. That has made it all worthwhile.
I’ll let you know what develops, but I wanted to give you a status report without further delay, and to let you know how much I appreciate your support over the years.
January 25, 2013
Calin – I’ve been trying to recover some of Bob’s
immortal music lately on YouTube and I stumbled on your webpage by accident. It
is a goldmine of information that I had never read.
February 16, 2013
I wanted to say I really enjoyed looking over the
Bob Nolan site for this month, especially the booklet of their
tour of Texas. Wow so many shows. Shame no one filmed it.
That year was very busy. We have a few more photos from the rest of the year and are hopeful of more.
March 7, 2013
March 8, 2013
Hello, I have three questions:
I’m afraid I’m not going to be of much help
today. I know how frustrating it is to buy movies listed “uncut” to find they
are cut. I have four copies of “Sons of the Pioneers” (1942) !
I was watching a TV program on Bob Nolan and
remember a fellow who was (as I recall ) a member of the Sons of the Pioneers
who would come into a bar in Thousand Oaks California and have one drink --sing
Tumbling Tumble Weeds and leave. Did Bob ever live in Thousand Oaks in the 1960s
? Thanks for taking the time to answer.
My source says that your Thousand Oaks bar friend may have been one of two people: Roy Lanham or Rome Johnson, both members of the Sons of the Pioneers at that time. Hope this helps.
April 7, 2013
In August 1993 at the coliseum in Marshalltown Iowa Sonny Wright and two of the other pioneers appeared in concert. I have a group of friends that are now residing in a nursing home here that were all present that evening. We all love the music. The information that is listed for them here on the internet; I am grateful for all the photos that has been presented on the web site so that even in death these wonderful individuals lives and accomplishments may be viewed by others. Thank you so much for all the work and time that you have done to make this history available. I purchased the 60 years of Harmony DVD package from the [Sons of the Pioneers'] website and we all watched it at the nursing home recently. It is such a wonderful concert and to see Roy Rogers and Dale Evans with the Sons of the Pioneers in 1994 it made us all very happy.
April 15, 2013
Thank you so much I truly enjoyed this website. Bob Nolan was a great singer and poet.
May 7, 2013
I’m sorry to have to tell you that Brian Bergquist passed away this afternoon, May 7, 2013, after his short but gallant battle with cancer. Right up until the last week he was checking with me to be sure I would keep up the Bob Nolan banner. It was very important to him that Canada should honour her own and it was on his mind right until the end. Brian put forth a huge effort to “Bring Bob Nolan Back to Winnipeg” last Fall. It was a thrill beyond words to him to have the Sons of the Pioneers perform in Manitoba; his dream come true.
May 21 2013
Hello, on the Stan Jones page you have a recording of Ghost Riders supposedly by sung by Stan Jones, this is not the 1949 Mercury version, do you have any info on when the one you have posted was recorded? Cheers, Rick
Rick, the “Riders in the Sky” you hear when you
open Stan’s page is sung by Bob Nolan and the Sons of the Pioneers recorded on
April 28, 1949 for RCA.
Thank you Elizabeth, but I got no audio when I opened Stan's page (would have reconised the 1949 SOTP RCA recording instantly) I'm a nut for the song & have collected over 190 versions, The one i meant is the one you have to click on to hear, it must be the one from Stan's Creakin' Leather LP ?
July 7, 2013
We saw a Western Singing Performance tonight in
Saint George. They are called Rydin High and did a great tribute to Roy, Gene,
The Sons, and also spoke about Bob Nolan. I spoke to them backstage and they met
Roy and Gene in the 90's and know a lot about their careers. I took some 8 x 10
glossies to show them. They wanted my email to exchange info. I told them about
the Bob Nolan Site.
July 10. 2013
I recently sent a lot of Mom's (Carolina Cotton)
archive material to Utah's Washington County Historical Society. Her movie
"Stallion Canyon" was filmed in the area, in 1948 (released in 1949). Ken
Curtis and Shug Fisher were in the movie as well. You can check out the
September 30, 2013
I once had four renderings of “Tumbling
October 2, 2013
I must tell you how much I am enjoying Bob Nolan's
music. Although "Cool Water" was the first record I ever owned in the late
1940s, and the Pioneers were my favorite singers for years, I never listened to
most of the songs your grandfather wrote until recently. I've been listening to
Ranger Doug's radio program, "Classic Cowboy Corral" on Sirius for the last two
months which led me to buy four CDs of Roy Rogers, The Sons of the Pioneers
Yes, Bob’s last album was really well done, thanks to Tommy Garrett. But I’m afraid we can’t put the lyrics to the two songs you requested on our website because they don’t belong to Calin. However, you can try these pages on the Internet:
October 3, 2013
Good morning Elizabeth. You and I spoke by e-mail a short time back in regards to Rudy Sooter. This morning I was looking at the Bob Nolan website and found a picture of both Rudy and Bob together and your site asked to identify who the man was with Bob. The picture is #2 in your unidentified photos. The children are not Rudy's so I am only guessing they belong to fans of both Bob and Rudy. If you look at Rudy's cowboy hat with Bob and then look at Rudy's cowboy hat in the Picture with the Texas Outlaws you can see it's the same hat. Now look at Rudy's large right hand in both of those same pictures. "It's the same Large hand". Rudy had a hand big enough to wrap his thumb over the top of a guitar neck and play the top "E" string while his first, second and third fingers could come around underneath the neck and play all the rest of the strings. Rudy was also taller than Bob, Rudy had longer legs. They became very close friends in a very short time.
Cowboy Jerry Sooter firstname.lastname@example.org
October 6, 2013
I collect sheet music and
am interested to learn what is available of Bob Nolan's
215 Ninth Street Port
Saint Joe, FL 32456-1923
Calin does not sell his original sheet music, Steve, but you might like to place an ad on our Sales Page. Perhaps a reader has sheet music for sale.
SO enjoyed all the stories written by Dick Goodman, I so wish I could have met Mr. Nolan. Actually I went to the same High School in Las Animas Colorado that Ken Curtis went to. Festus. Researching him brought me to these stories. Have a great day and God Bless, Hank Dodson
December 18, 2013
I'm a big fan of Roy Rogers movies, Bob Nolan, etc. ... In the Rogers movie "Bells Of Rosarita," there is a sweet little song called "Bugler's Lullaby," by Robert Mitchell and Betty Best. Can you help me find a source for the sheet music and lyrics of this song?
I’m very sorry, Mr. Martin, but we don’t have access to sheet music for “Bugler’s Lullaby” from “Bells of Rosarita”. However, we will post you letter on our Q&A page and hope one of our readers can help you. Good luck with your search.